“Look,” he says. “I have been studying human evolution for 40 years. I have traveled around the world. I have handled just about every human fossil, every relic of our evolution. I know them to be genuine. I know that they represent the development of our own kind from creatures who had many resemblances to apes but were not apes, and over time, I see a system of change that can be marked in the record of geology and in dating processes that show that over time, our kind evolved into who we are.
“When I say this to a creationist who has never handled a fossil, who doesn’t really have my experience, and they suggest that this is wrong, that I don’t know what I’m talking about, I am distressed. It’s not to me a proper way of debate.”